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The Sunshine Boys Bring Us Sunshine (And Lots Of Male Bitching!)

MamasDoin'Fine
Broadway Legend
joined:9/28/08

Danny DeVito and Richard Griffiths are about to hit the West End stage in Neil Simon’s play, 'The Sunshine Boys', about an old-time comedy double-act who can’t stand each other. It’s very funny – but also deadly serious, they tell David Gritten .

It’s a hot afternoon, and as I walk along a corridor next to a rehearsal room at the Jerwood Space, close to London’s South Bank, two of its internal windows are wide open – so it’s easy to hear the voices of two older men with New York accents bickering loudly at each other. This is excellent news: it means rehearsals for the new West End production of Neil Simon’s 1972 comedy 'The Sunshine Boys' are proceeding as planned.

The play is about two elderly vaudevillians called Lewis and Clark, who had a successful act for 43 years, but grew to dislike each other and split up when Lewis decided to retire. They are invited to reunite and do their act one more time for a television network special about the history of comedy – but can they stand to be in the same room?

American Danny DeVito, best known as the grouchy, malevolent Louie in the long-running television comedy 'Taxi', plays Willie Clark, while Britain’s Richard Griffiths, equally famed for playing the teacher Hector in 'The History Boys' and Uncle Monty in the film 'Withnail and I', is Al Lewis.
As soon as their rehearsal break is called, the two actors bound happily into a refreshment room to talk.

One’s first thought is that as a pair they call to mind the title of another famous Neil Simon play – 'The Odd Couple'. Although neither is exactly svelte, it is nevertheless hard to imagine a more sharply contrasting pair.
DeVito, 67, is barely 5ft tall, with a tanned bald pate; he gesticulates wildly as he talks, fast and loud in staccato sentences.
Griffiths, 64, is a bigger man in every way, and boasts an impressive mane of silver hair. He considers his words carefully, but makes them count.

“We’ve been rehearsing two weeks, and it’s been a lot of fun,” says DeVito, beaming. “It’s a great play. It’s a comedy, but it’s not frivolous at all. The first time Richard and I spoke about it on the phone, one thing we went right to was: this is not simply a comedy. It’s got a lot more depth to it, character-wise.
“The other thing is getting to a point where we know the dialogue perfectly. Neil Simon is so precise.”
Griffiths leans forward: “It kills him if you approximate.”

In Britain, 'The Sunshine Boys' is less well known as a stage play than as a film. A big-screen adaptation in 1975 starred Walter Matthau as Clark and George Burns as the irascible Lewis. Burns, who was 79 at the time, won an Oscar as supporting actor – the movie kick-started a late-flowering film career for him.

Griffiths is insistent that the version of 'The Sunshine Boys' he and DeVito will play is Simon’s original. “It’s the one in the Library of Congress,” he says seriously.
“We talked to the director, Thea Sharrock, about it,” DeVito chips in. “She feels very particular about this. We have fun with this play, but she’s pretty much a stickler for the words.”

Neither actor has seen a stage production of 'The Sunshine Boys', though Griffiths clearly recalls the Matthau-Burns film, about which he has reservations: “Having been in a play which was then made into a film ['The History Boys'], I saw they’d done the same thing with 'The Sunshine Boys'. They tried to 'open it up’ for the camera. There’s this desperate desire to open it up because they want to use more locations. But to do that, you have to insert new stuff. So the movie set itself up for a fall. It was unsatisfactory. They took the play and fiddled with it.
“The performances are great – that’s not the problem. But we’re going back to the play, because it’s what Mr Simon wrote.”
And what he wrote was hugely funny, though it’s sour humour, coming from characters who are getting older and are somewhat worn down by life. At one point Lewis tells Clark: “You know what your trouble is, Willy? You always took the jokes too seriously. It was just jokes. We did comedy on the stage for 43 years. I don’t think you enjoyed it once.” Clark replies: “If I was there to enjoy it, I would buy a ticket.”

“The way Neil Simon constructs the whole thing,” DeVito says, “he gives you all the humour, the absurdities, the craziness you expect, but he’s also giving you the glue between these characters, where the glue came apart and what happened to the relationship.
“It’s like a marriage. There are so many things that can pile up, but the marriage is there – there’s a reason you got together. Al Lewis wouldn’t have stuck around as long as he did if he didn’t know it was working. Lewis and Clark did 8,000 shows around the circuit and nailed it every time. The audience was like, falling over. So there was something there. But they were with each other a lot and things deteriorated. It was little things, and finally they couldn’t be around each other.”

Simon is widely thought to have used two real-life old-time American vaudeville acts as his models for Lewis and Clark. Their longevity was inspired by an act called Smith and Dale, who started their two-man act in 1920 and stayed together for 50 years. Though they notoriously bickered with each other, they remained firm friends. The other precursors, Gallagher and Shean, worked together on and off for only a dozen or so years, and, although they were successful, their relationship was a stormy one.
This happens a lot with partnerships in the entertainment industry. Pop groups go the same way: they spend long years on the road together and often fall out. “It’s the way the Beatles came apart,” Griffiths observes. “But everyone out there, the audience, just wanted them to be together, do the music and be happy.”
And never to change, of course. “That’s right,” he says. “But change is inevitable. And I think this whole play is to do with the nature of change, because these two characters are confronted by choice at this point, at the fag-end of their careers.”
But they agree that Simon’s play is partly about the ageing process and, as Griffiths says, “about the intractability of important relationships. It’s so complicated, this thing. Yet these two guys use very simple language. There’s nothing philosophical, tricksy, clever or smart-arse about them whatsoever. They’re comics, they’re stand-up guys. That’s what they do.”

DeVito and Griffiths will not be around long enough to tire of each other’s company: 'The Sunshine Boys' is scheduled for a limited three-month run. But the two men, as different as chalk and cheese, seem to delight in each other and laugh a lot.

They’ll be playing at the Savoy Theatre. “A gorgeous place,” says DeVito, before he starts lapsing into the querulous tones of Lewis and Clark: “But if I could, I’d like to appeal to the Mayor of London, or maybe the Prime Minister, and say: 'Is there a way to put a couple of lifts in there?’ I mean, would it have killed them to put an escalator in for two old guys like us? We gotta go up 50 steps to get to the stage. We got it in our contracts – one day he carries me up, the next day I carry him.”
Of the two, DeVito, who grew up in New Jersey and comes from an Italian-American family, might seem to have the inside track on Lewis and Clark: his “Noo Joisey” accent fits right in for the rhythms of the dialogue Simon wrote for the two vaudevillians.
“But I’m so impressed with Richard’s accent,” he says. “It’s amazing.” Addressing Griffiths, he says: “Sometimes you say things that throw me right off. I hear my relatives sitting around a table talking.” He lapses into “Joisey”: “You doin’ a good job, Mr Griffiths, with that accent!”
Griffiths, clearly touched by the compliment, actually blushes.
“Well,” I tell DeVito, “he’s a national treasure, you know.” Not missing a beat, DeVito says: “Now he’s my treasure, too.”

In fact, Griffiths admits he has not attempted an American accent since 1979, when he appeared in Trevor Nunn’s production of Kaufman and Hart’s 'Once in a Lifetime' at the RSC. (He was nominated for an Olivier award on that occasion.) Still, it’s Griffiths who has a clear advantage in stage experience. While DeVito did a lot of theatre in New York in his younger days (off-Broadway he played Martini in 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest', the film that gave him a major career break) he has essentially confined himself to movies and television since the Seventies.
“It’s been a while,” he admits. “But on 'Taxi', I played Louie for five years. And we’d do that show every Friday night in front of an audience of 300 people. Each time, we’d only had the script from Monday. We never did a straight run-through – one of us would screw up a line – but it wasn’t so different.”
Both men insist that Al Lewis and Willie Clark are not mean-minded men, despite the acidity of their humour. “There’s a lot more love in our play than animosity,” DeVito muses. “You hear stories about big stars who berate assistants or do cruel things to a costume designer on set. I don’t think there’s cruelty in this.”
“They’re not bullies, are they?” Griffiths murmurs.
“No, they’re really sweet,” DeVito continues. “But they’re at that time in their life, in their seventies. You spend 43 years doing one thing, and then suddenly you’re either out to pasture or you’re unhappy about not working.
“We embody both of those results of life.” He assumes a voice of doom: “The ticking clock.” Then he cackles: “But it’s funny!”



Updated On: 5/17/12 at 09:18 AM
FrontRowDress
Stand-by
joined:3/20/12
The front row stalls day seats are only £10 during previews and must be the best bargain in the West End at the moment. The stage is lowish and you don't miss anything. Danny DeVito really does give a masterclass in comic acting, plus the play never feels dated. It really is one not to be missed. I've rambled more on my blog if you're interested.


The Sunshine Boys
Updated On: 5/5/12 at 02:36 PM
Princeton Returns
Broadway Legend
joined:12/2/10
^^ and that's how links to blogs SHOULD be posted
Phantom of London
Broadway Legend
joined:3/26/08
I was tempted to see this today, but balked at the £45 asking price at TKT's, may give that a go this we week, what time do I have to get there?

Saw instead Educating Rita at the Menier and What The Butler Saw, the later was only £22 from TKT's.

I am off for 2 weeks so going to see some shows, anyone know any other bargains/day tickets? Anyone know any good deals for Top Hat?
FrontRowDress
Stand-by
joined:3/20/12
I got there at 9.50 am on Saturday and there were only 3 people ahead of me. I really can't believe the tickets are only a tenner, you miss absolutely nothing as the stage is relatively low and there is a decent gap between the seats and the stage.

For Top Hat we had dress circle slips for £27.50 and you do miss a good 20% of the stage on the side you're sitting, but still great value as you are so close to the action.

We're off to What The Butler Saw tomorrow to try to cheer up this bleak bank holiday weekend.



Updated On: 5/6/12 at 02:49 AM
mallardo
Broadway Legend
joined:5/28/04
I'll just echo what Front Row Dress says. Bargain day seats and a terrific show. A special mention for Adam Levy who plays Danny DeVito's nephew, a crucial role. I liked him in Zorro - he was the bad guy - but he's really wonderful in this, he holds the play together.
MamasDoin'Fine
Broadway Legend
joined:9/28/08
The one and only time I saw this piece(well, its not his most widely performed peice)was way back in 1977/78 at the New Theatre Cardiff in a very powerful production starring a then unknown actor, Bill Owen. Bill Owen. a few years later went on to great TV success as Compo in 'Last Of The Summer Wine'. In a small supporting role was Freddie Lees who decades later would appear as Mr Sowerbury at The London Palladium in 'Oliver!'. Cant wait to see this production.
Phantom of London
Broadway Legend
joined:3/26/08
Are saw this today for £10 bargain.
keithp
Featured Actor
joined:4/20/05
Bill Owen wouldn't have been that unknown in 1977 as Last of The Summer Wine had been running for about 4 years by then.
alterego
Broadway Legend
joined:6/5/03
Very, very odd casting.
FrontRowDress
Stand-by
joined:3/20/12
Daily Mail (4 stars) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2146161/QUENTIN-LETTS-Danny-DeVito-puts-sunshine-sidekick-Richard-Griffiths-shade.html

I wonder if the Independent will the the lone voice of dissent (I loved it by the way).
rjm516
Broadway Star
joined:6/24/09
Anyone know how the day seat attempt would be at a Wednesday matinee?
mallardo
Broadway Legend
joined:5/28/04
It would be no problem.
rjm516
Broadway Star
joined:6/24/09
Like even right before showtime?
mallardo
Broadway Legend
joined:5/28/04
Oh, no, that might be a bit late. Or not. To guarantee a seat get there soon after the box office opens at ten.
ClapYo'Hands
Broadway Legend
joined:11/29/09
I got there at 1pm last Tuesday and day seats had sold out. Luckily they reduce top price to £25 for students so I got one of the last remaining seats in the stalls.
rjm516
Broadway Star
joined:6/24/09
Ohh ok that's good to know, that I'd have to get there in the morning. Hmm. Is it the same for any show or do people line up before 10/is it harder for Friday and Saturday shows? Thanks for all the help! I was thinking that, given my experiences the past few weeks, day seats were so easy to get, available still just before showtime, but I guess for limited engagements with big stars I should know better.
Skywalker3
Stand-by
joined:5/4/08
Trying to see this in 2 weeks! Hope i'll be in time to grab the dayseats!
MamasDoin'Fine
Broadway Legend
joined:9/28/08
It will be into its last performances by then so be careful! xxx


Updated On: 7/6/12 at 05:07 PM
Skywalker3
Stand-by
joined:5/4/08
I'm going the week before! (17-20 july)
So I don't think it would be crazy over there already
rjm516
Broadway Star
joined:6/24/09
I went today at 11:30 and got a day seat for the matinee. The lady wasn't sure if there were any so I assume that means there weren't many at that time. Not a great play, but it's obviously performed so well (minus the supporting casts' absolutely dreadful American accents, ha) that it was a treat. Danny was incredible. He also came out and took pictures with several people at stage door, which is super nice on a 2 show day.

Updated On: 7/11/12 at 02:27 PM
ClapYo'Hands
Broadway Legend
joined:11/29/09
Not to mention Richard Griffiths' dodgy American accent
Phantom of London
Broadway Legend
joined:3/26/08
I went in previews on a Wednesday and got there just before 1pm and bagged a day seat for £10, I enjoyed the play very much, but enjoyed the value for money better.

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